So i noticed im getting a lot faster at this :)
Last night I retopologized the head, put in the cheek handles redid the the nose bone ...NOW im digging it! He's got MUCH more volume and interest in the face now.
I also reworked the torso to arm topology... now it Fu**ing works :).
Also figured out the quad set up for the hand to arm; had add a whole strip of edges up the arm to the neck but in the long run i neeedd them there to balance out the mesh anyway.
Ode to happy accidents indeed.
Hers a model session where I rebuild the chest to arm Topo as well as a few other things.